In this very special episode, we get to meet the woman behind Danielle Leslie, Francesca Jeanmarie! Sharing her mother with the world, listen in as Danielle and Francesca discuss feeling a lack of belonging and the importance of embracing what makes us different rather than trying to fit into a prescribed box.
Sharing Francesca’s inquisitive nature, Danielle also shares how her mother allowed her to pursue multiple interests, and reflects on what 2-year-old Danielle wanted to do when she grew up, where she later got her ambition from and learned to be enthusiastic about each and every day.
Don’t miss this loving tribute to mothers, and the unique bond Danielle and Francesca hold that allows them to not only teach each other, but influence each other's identity and growth throughout their lives.
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“Allow people to be who they are, as long as they're not walking off the cliff.”
“Give them license to be happy. But I expect you to do the same for me. Allow me to be happy and whatever that might be. That's the key to just being happy.”
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0:00It was summertime and you're at the kitchen counter doing homework, and you're diligently like always doing your homework. And TJ, of course, he wants to go play. He0:08doesn't want to do homework, you know, and I'm like, TJ, you've got to go do homework. And he's like, I don't have to do homework. I don't have to do homework. I want to be Superman.0:17I don't want to go to school, I want to be Superman. And you just got off the counter very quietly, very calmly, and you0:23you went to him, you say, teach a Superman has to know about geography. And Superman has to know math, because he needs to0:31know how many times to go around the world to get to his the people he's going to rescue Superman has to has to go to0:38school. He knows that he needs to know these things. And so I was done. I didn't know what to say. Because you shamed me.0:44Right. You took the highway, you showed him how and why he needed to do his homework, because we need a smart Superman.0:57I'm so excited to bring you today's episode. But before we do, I need to make sure you've heard about member up. So1:03community driven products are the future. But Facebook groups are a thing of the past. And after 10 plus years in the1:10online education space, I've taken all my learnings and I've built this incredible platform member up. It's a customizable1:18easy to use all in one platform where you can build a premium course community or membership site without the tech headache,1:26gone are the days of having to duct tape together, your content, your community, your payments, all on different1:33platforms, I want you to do me a favor, do yourself a favor and head over right now to member up.com Ford slash Danielle. And1:41you can get started for free today. I promise you, I can't wait for you to see this platform. It's beautiful. Okay,1:47the design is amazing your community is going to feel at home here and you are going to take pride in your online1:53business, it is the place to start, head over to member of.com Ford slash Danielle. Now let's get into the episode. I2:01thought it would be really cool to have you on I mean, you are my best friend, you've been my best friend from the time I came2:06out the womb, I think of you as my first thought partner. When I think about my life and everything I've created. I'm2:12like, I feel like I've just had the right people in close proximity. And I've always had a great thought partner. And you were my OG thought partner, I did a treat session with my2:20friend Lisa. And it's a two hour session. And her goal is to ask you a series of questions. And at the very end of it to2:27reintroduce yourself to yourself. At the end. I remember I did my truth session and it was like a two hour session. And2:35I was really hungover from the night before. So it was great. I was just like speaking like, truthfully, from the hip. And2:40she asked you everything about how you feel who you are. And by the very end, she summarized and she pretends like she's2:49introducing you and bringing you on stage somewhere. And for me, she was bringing me on to the TED stage. And so she says2:55welcome to the stage Danielle Leslie, the author of I see you and you belong. And that was the title she gave like my you know,3:03fictitious future book. And then I gifted this same truth session3:09to you. So you did the true session with Lolita. And in your truth session, because you've always had aspirations to write3:17a book. Yes, she gave you a title for your book. Do you remember what the title of your book? was? It was same vibe.3:27Yeah. So this was around the time that Michelle Obama's becoming book came out. Two Wars was called a long. Yes, that's3:35right. And so I remember you told me that and you said, I'm so this session with Lolita. And you know, she said, um, you3:41know, my book is going to be called belonging. And I was like, that's interesting. So I shared this with rosemary, my3:49spiritual adviser. And I said, and we were having a session, and it's actually before I shared this, and I was just3:56telling her, you know, rosemary, I feel so alone, I feel so lonely. I don't have any friends. I don't belong and ever4:01have. And she's like, wait a minute, you just visited crystal in LA, you talked to Tara earlier, you're doing all these4:07things? Where are you getting this from? That you don't belong? And I thought about it. And she's like, is there anyone4:13in your life who has thought they don't belong? And I realized, Oh, my goodness, that is something that you I feel4:20like identify with. And I thought about our truth session. And I shared it with rosemary, and she said, Wait a minute. So4:28your mom's book was belonging. And your title was I see you, you belong. She said, Do you realize that your book is an4:37answer to your mom? It is telling her I see you. You4:42belong. Yes. For all of my life, I felt I didn't belong. And I realized I4:49had carried your Yeah, no, I know. And I feel so bad. That's right. And I did tell I4:55felt so bad about that because it's true. I mean, even being born in a foreigner Country in Panama and having my friends5:02there. And and, you know, we were split between, you know, the American community and the Panamanian community, and this,5:08like, Where do I belong? So thankfully, they didn't invent a term for people like me there, which was zoning in. And then5:16coming to the states, it was the same thing. So I think I've carried that throughout my entire life. And I think I'm5:22still to a certain degree, I'm still struggling with that, but I think I've resolved to just looked at, I'm looking at it as5:30a plus. Because when you to me when this so called belonging,5:35and when you you pigeonhole yourself into this, these cliques, you know, cliques, you know, so and so on, and so5:42forth, you it's almost like you're, you're obligated to stay in them. Whereas, if we flit around like butterflies and5:50whatnot, in different areas, different when you're traveling from LA to, you know, all over the world, Spain, whatever,5:57whatever, you know, we're making more and more connections, whereas when we're belonging, in this in these small groups of6:06whatever it is, whether it's a sorority or certain network, or whatever, we're kind of, like, feel obligated to this group.6:15Whereas to me, you're spreading your wings, and you're just, so I'm looking at it now differently. And I look at it as6:22he plus, you know, and it's just like, when you if you moved around from school to school, when you were little, because we6:28did movie, and and you would say but how we're moving again, where and I would say to you, well, that's how you you're6:35gonna make more friends, you're as you're moving to these different places, you're gonna you're making new new friends6:41each where you go, place you go. And so your Rolodex is just building up, I love that. I was gonna say that, what I've learned is, it's6:50so interesting how your, I would say, quote, unquote, you know,6:55feeling lack of belonging, or, you know, I also saw it as you7:01never putting yourself as you said, in a box. And it's interesting that my entire business is built around being a7:08culture ad and using your cultural advantage and honing in on what makes you different, as opposed to thinking about what7:14makes you the same and what makes you quote, unquote, belong. And I always say that I created a course from scratch7:20and created this community for the people who were the first, you know, the first to do things who didn't feel like they had a7:25community or had anyone around them with the same label. And so it's so interesting that it's almost like your legacy has, you7:33know, been brought to life through me and like my mission, and it's a big core part of my mission. And I wouldn't say it7:39made it, it was my biggest strength, but you know, was never really, I used to identify myself, as you know, nice and,7:47like, smart and successful. Right? Like, I didn't even think about race, gender, age, any of those things until much later.7:54And I thank you for that. You know, you always like really? Do you remember what you used to pray for? For me? And just so at8:01night? Oh, gee, you prayed that we would have always well, compassion. Yes. And I still to this day, that you8:10would always have compassion. And yes, that's just very important and that you share yourself that meaning any good8:18parts about you that you're that you share those among those around you and your community, etc.8:26Yeah. And I would say one thing that really stands out is how you always have I think, a top value of honesty and8:32transparency. And just from when I was little You encouraged me to just like, tell the truth. Yeah. You know, see how that's8:40influenced me had the sign the tell the truth sign right there. I even had a recession. But I think you really, like impacted8:48me and you made it you created a safe space for me to just say whatever. Yeah, so I've told you things even TMI I've told you8:53about. Yes. And psychedelic we talked before something Yes. But9:00I love that you gave me like the safe space to do that. And I never felt judgment from you. You always like Okay,9:08interesting. And so one thing I love about you is this like inquisitive nature. Where do you think that came from?9:15Oh my goodness. I think to be honest, inquisitiveness came from being a middle child and not having anyone to interact9:25with so I was left to my own devices and my own you know, inventions and however I entertained myself my own9:34entertainment right. And so and so just one thing I was curious about everything, you know, just just about everything whether it9:42was living beings or you know the swamps around me or the the frogs in the street or the crabs or the rain or my chemistry set9:50or whatever it was people are, you know how my parents entertained everything I was just, you know, just inquisitive9:57about and One thing I love doing was watching people and making10:02up stories about, oh, what's that person thinking? Or what are they going to do next? Or, Oh, they're doing that? Because10:08so and so that is so true. And mean, just so we always talked about that, that like you10:14were always making them narratives about the neighbors like when we I was living with you in Redondo Beach. And you'd10:19be like, yeah, so I think that is her husband. And he's like, coming back from a long business trip. And I think like, what he10:25was doing on the business trip was making her upset, like, you would just make up these narratives. But I think we that trained me to do was to think about the why of someone's10:33behavior, instead of jumping to conclusions, like judging them, but actually knowing like, oh, there's a why, like, just10:39knowing there's a reason for how they're showing up. And therefore, there's a reason for why I'm showing up this way, or10:45like I behaved in this way, I don't know, I think I learned from you to always know, like, always think about the context,10:51you know, for why people act in a certain way, that there's some bigger reason that I may not know, and to not judge them for10:57it, but to really like, accept, yeah, we don't know what's going on with people, you know, and I11:02try, it's hard not to, it's hard not to judge and I, you know, I thank you for praising me in that way. But I think, you know,11:10actually, I think of Giselle, whenever I think the judge where judgment comes into my mind, I do think about just all because11:16she's the one who would always you're being judgmental, you're being judged. And I think one day I finally said, What do you11:22mean by just what is Judge being judgmental? To break down? What is breaking down? What does it mean? So what do you know? And11:30well, I guess, in my mind, right, then I was not being judgmental, because a judgmental person to me would be, oh, well,11:37you're, you're, you're no good because you're, you know, your, your, your, your, your stealing or because you're doing11:44hardcore, the hardcore drugs. So, you know, I had to rethink what is, you know, what is that? What is this word? Judgment?11:52Even Steve would tell me, oh, you know, St. Your, you judge people. And so many times before, I would form opinions,12:00you know, because I would my, you know, I would retort by saying, I'm just opinionated. That's all. And then, well, what12:07do you think judgmental is? And anyway, it's, um, yeah, so it's,12:12it's, it's something I'm, I'm coming to terms with that I, I am to a certain degree, but I allow people as well, as long as12:20you know, they're not walking off the cliff where I have to grab them, then, you know, I feel that, yes, allow people to12:27be who they are, you know, as long as you're not walking off the cliff. So. So it's, I'm not perfect in that regard. I do12:35think about it, I do contemplate it. And I weigh everything. Yeah, before I say something negative or judgmental? Yeah.12:45One of the things I really love about you is how you allowed me12:50to be myself, and to pursue whatever I found interesting.12:55You didn't have a prescribed list of things that you wanted me to be or aspire to.13:01I know, right? I didn't, I didn't really live vicariously13:06through you. But I sort of did, actually. And because, but I mean, you came blazing into this world. That's how you came,13:15meaning meaning that you did use like, get everybody out of my way. You had your checklist coming into this world, you13:21know, I'm gonna do this, that the other because everything as a toddler as a baby, you did so early, right? Because it's like,13:28I've got things to do. I've got places to go. And you learn to walk early, talk early experiences early. So experience13:36I when I like learn to walk, oh, my gosh, well, you were I would say you were less than you weren't even a year old yet,13:42when you started staying in like, you know, whether it was your ABCs. And you're counting from one to 10, you know, and13:50your memory skills were pretty strong, obviously, because that's the way you would have learned them. Even the experiences when your dad was had a habit of eating these Ritz13:59crackers and cheese together. And you would just crawl up and want some of that and he would give you an offer a cracker. And14:06you would know you wanted both, you would want the cheese and one hand, the cracker and this is to you this is less than less14:13than a year old. And you would put them together like this, because you wanted the experience what he was having.14:20You wanted the experience he was having. Right. So you so yeah, but and you know, and at two and a half, I didn't know what14:26possessed me to think to ask you. What do you want to be when you grow up at two and a half? I mean, who knows? I showed you a14:33book with all these professions. It was a children's book. And you said, Well, you want to be a doctor that takes care of the14:38mommy when she's having the baby said, Oh, well, that's an obstetrician. And so that seed was in my brain. And so when you14:47got to high school, you know and you know, you got into the health careers Academy in high school. And you were doing all14:55of that then was something else and you want it you were interested in it. In, in, in arguments, they have the mock15:02trials. And so you try out, right debating and so on. And you love that too. And I mean, and you were on the basketball15:10team, you did well, with that you were, you know, tennis, you play tennis. And so just everything you set out to do.15:18You were, you know, you just really good, but it's the indication you gave me right when you showed showed me you15:24had an interest Oh, in, in dancing, even in the night,15:29exposed you to those things, and you would then decide you will do like it or not. piano lessons. I know, that was one of15:37the the times when I was I felt had to hold myself back. Because15:45you were exposed to piano lessons. You You were taking it and so on. You started out with having a sort of a group15:52session. And then I wanted you to have more of a private, you know, private tutoring. And so we went, we started go into15:58them. Yeah, as soon as Barbara right. And what I found was that you thrived more in the group session, I think it was more of16:07a competition for you. And you were the best student there. And I thought, Well, if she's the best student in a group setting,16:13she could be even better if we if we give her private sessions. And here, you know, so we had the private sessions. And then16:21you finally one day said, No, I don't want to do this anymore. Because, you know, Miss Barbara kept, you know, advancing me.16:30And you felt that you weren't, you weren't perfecting each piece each week. And she was and yet she was advancing you. So16:36you kind of took yourself out of it. He didn't want to do it anymore. You know, and I was so disappointed in that particular16:42I never said anything. You know, when I think to this day, I'll I'll kind of remind you, you play the piano?16:49Well, yeah, I do remember that with piano within that instance, the expectation is for you to practice, yes. Like, almost16:56every day. Yeah, every day, you know, put some effort into hours every day. And I remember it would be like 7pm on Tuesdays17:03that we would go to Miss Barbara. And I would practice at like, you know, 5pm from five to six until we had to leave at17:10six. And I just remember knowing that I wasn't doing what I was supposed to do, you know, and I said, and that's where I felt17:17like it was incongruent. It was into it wasn't integrative. Is that the word? Integris? Like, not in integrity? Is that a17:24word? Did I make that? I don't know. I'm not gonna lie. I don't know.17:30But I didn't feel it integrity. Yeah, because I knew that I was playing once a week for an hour, maybe 30.17:36And I realized about you, and I said, you know, I shouldn't be applauding her, then, you know, then being a little bit17:42disappointed about it, because she knows what she isn't doing. And what it takes to be, you know, to be, you know, a good17:51pianist. In a sense, I was applauding you, but I was a little bit, you know, hoping that you would go on with it and17:56give it more of a try. But you knew what you wanted to do what you liked. And like I said, You came blazing into this world.18:02You knew what you wanted to do when and you didn't have time for this. And you would go on to the next and and so and I think18:10that's what you're you continue to do. Hey, this is Danielle Leslie, and I have a question for you.18:15If you are a creative entrepreneur, and your business is unique, why are you working with a generic accountant? One18:22of the best decisions I made was who I would partner with on my taxes and my accounting. So if you're creative entrepreneur,18:29you are growing your business you're scaling your business, I want to introduce you to revel. Revel is a firm that can help18:35you whether you're looking to prepare your taxes, or you're looking for that year round support. 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One thing I'll say is what I picked up from you is you are always you've always20:25been very ambitious, you've always focused on I remember coming home with the report card, and I would have the like,20:33all A's and like the B plus. And then dad would be like, golden child, and he would be like, you know, dancing around the20:41kitchen, like, yes. And then you'd be like, Oh, Danny, come here. What is this b plus, in social studies? What happened20:47here? And I told you this, you know, I so appreciate that. I had both, you know, I had dad who was like, affirming, and20:53he's like, celebrating. And then, you know, you were really focused on Okay, and that's great. And what about this gap?21:01Let's close this gap. So I think that's always had me look at just be committed to growth, you know, and like, and like, Okay,21:07what, what can I do to close the gap? But another thing from I think, from you is just like your level of, you have, I21:15think, just this high level of energy and like zest for life? I21:21mean, how would you describe even now, when you wake up? I'm curious, how do you think about the day? What are you feeling?21:27Well, first, I do try, I thank God for that for the new day. And, you know, and for improving on, you know, you know, an21:36improvement from the day before, whether it was, you know, my attitude, my behavior, whatever it was, but let it be a learning21:43experience today. Right. And, but it's usually in my, it's a checklist, it's like a long list. That's what I wake up with21:52each and every day. It's never, there's never moments. I don't21:57want to call it peace. But, you know, a quiet, there's not,22:03there's not really a you know, and if there is I don't take the time, it's like, my, it's like Steve's cousin came in a few22:10weeks ago to visit us and she saw my, you know, my freestanding bathtub, and how lovely it was with a candle and22:17place for the wineglass and the and the place for a book or, or the or my or a tablet or something and, and all the22:24niceties that goes you know, that will go that it goes. But how often do you get in there and enjoy it? How often do you22:30really let yourself go and just linger and just relax? And? And not very often, right? Not very often. Because if I if I when I22:38do get in there, my mind still racing. Right? It's my mind is still racing. So I can't seem to quiet my mind.22:48Interesting. Yeah. I remember when I moved back in with you in22:54Redondo Beach when I was broke, and I was staying with you. And like every I feel like it was every other day, I would have a23:00new business idea. And you have always you'd be just as excited about the idea on Monday, as you were on Wednesday, as you were23:07on Friday. And it was always like a new show idea or Yeah, business. And I love that you were just as excited. And then I23:15look at you yourself. And you're an example of this. Because I mean, now you just came back from Atlanta from a voiceover23:22conference. Yeah. You're like studying voice over. You had your green truffles. Business? Yeah, right. Yeah. You started23:29an E commerce site. Right. And you set up the site yourself? Yes. You found a supplier for the clothes, right? Yeah. And23:37you're working on a children's book. Right. Are you still Yeah. And memoir? Yeah, it's gonna be a children's series and a memoir. But it's going to be I don't know about23:45the memoir part. Because it's, I wouldn't be very honest about it. So it's going to be what is the other literary term? Not in23:52my memoir, but no. Oh, gosh, it escapes me right now. Not an autobiography. No, that's it. Oh, my goodness. Anyway. It's24:02short of a memoir. But you change the you change the genre, because it's, it's, you sort of want to hide behind it. You24:12know, I can't think of the literary term right now. But anyway, so yeah, I'm working on those things. And as Steve calls24:19them, idea does your you know, he chooses me every morning I'll wake up. Oh, I was thinking I have another one actually. Oh,24:25really? I want no, no, I this evening is here. So I want to24:30write up the business plan and then I'm gonna present it to you. I just, you have an idea. Because we I kind of mentioned24:36it to you a while ago. My favorite brand little set. Okay, you know, Oh, good. So brand. Yeah. Okay.24:48Swap and trade. But I haven't Yeah, it's it's I think it's a great idea. But, yeah, but it's my idea du jour. So, yeah, it's25:00Um, I think if we just keep coming up with those and that Yeah, I know you get that, but why not? Why not be enthusiastic25:06about each and every one of them as we wake up, you know, and to me, it's like, you know, something will stick, right? You25:14keep, you know, throwing them out having these ideas, something will stick, and it will work out it and I'm sure25:20it'll be very successful. And so, so yeah, I there's nothing.25:27I don't think it's a flaw at all. Yeah, and I think that you even growing up you, you exposed us25:33to as many different experiences as possible whether it's easiest different things or so. Yeah, yeah. And so I think they call25:40it to your even like, personal life and expression like with my25:47birthday, you and your cell, we're going to surprise me with something What were you going to surprise me? Shut it down. But25:53you did that was too bad. I was so looking for two. So that was gonna be like a stream. It's we're all we were, we had it all25:59planned out. We're gonna invite a just a few of your, you know, your, your, your closest friends and, and Helen, of course, and I26:06went in and we were gonna do pole dancing. We're gonna I had my wig painted, picked. Oh, I had a platinum straightaway.26:14Well, you know, did you have? Like, oh, well, that was coming. And I mean, I was just getting I was26:23just getting ready for this. I was YouTubing. And reading my lesson. Oh, hang on.26:32You don't have to do any research at you? Well, yeah, no, I do. I think I spend more time and I do26:39anything, any little thing that comes my way. I just research it to death, everything and you know, anything to that pertains26:47to you. And just all you know, and to myself, you know, I research because one thing I just like things to be as26:52credible as possible. And you know, and sometimes we may not be as original original as as you know, as we can be. But, you26:59know, we make it our own. And so that's and so you can only do that if you research right? And number one, it's just, you know,27:06researching is good. In many ways. It shows you how to do things. You have to learn the rules numerator in order to27:11break them and make them your own. Right. So that's good. Yeah. Because I always saw you as creating your27:17own thing. One of the things that really stands out is even in your relationship, you're very independent. So I remember27:24you're like, you know, we can live in different homes. Homes. Oh my gosh. Oh, right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, his and hers. That's what27:29I called it. As long as his it's across town. Not, not next door.27:35Not next door. You're not going to come knocking every hour in the orc walking in it. No. As long as it's across town. Yes.27:43That that would would be an ideal in even to this day in in.27:49Yes. I would love that. Yes. And then when you you probably not gonna allow me to talk about27:55this. Mommy, when you guys lived in Spain. With the barista. Can I say that? Oh, yeah. All right. All right. So this is why I love28:08my mom. And this is why like, We are the same person. So what I love is, yeah, you create your own rules. And remember, you28:15guys moved to Spain. Yes. And you told me how the barista was28:21really beautiful. And you were like, trying to like hook. Steve up with the barista? Yeah, well,28:27okay, so, yeah. Well, you know, it just came it's always been28:33that way. I think from the get go and you know, they're in the relationship. I don't think I'm a very jealous person. I don't28:40think I am. About anything. Right. And so if the person but28:47yeah, but in a case of real of a relationship, I feel if the person's for you there for you. Right. And, you know, whatever28:55goes whatever. So yes, the we lived up in a beautiful apartment on the fourth floor in San Saba Stan.29:03Beautiful, beautiful water the ocean was the ocean to one side and then the mountain to Mongolia to29:11the next. It was just awesome. And then the coffee shop29:16downstairs. And so I mean, that's where he would just hang out a lot and and I saw the flirtation going on oh, you do I29:25saw the flirtation and, and so but she couldn't figure it out and they hit people. I know people I think to this day,29:33people see us together and they can't figure out and maybe it's because we're not hanging on. I'm not hanging on you know,29:40like I'm hanging on tight in your mind and this you know, so they just can't figure it out. They see looseness they're in29:45the relationship. So and I think that's you know, when so I think that gave the the barista license to like, come on to him29:53and I encouraged him I said, You know what, go ahead and go you know, you know, go visit with her. I know she was moving29:59close. to us and I, I encouraged I encouraged him now whether anything happened or? I don't know, but I doubt it. I doubt30:07it. But yeah, I, I love that though. I mean, because you you mentioned earlier, you don't see yourself as a jealous person, what I'm30:14hearing in that is you, and I see this in you, you're very grounded and comfortable in who you are. And you know what you30:22have to offer. And you know how to make yourself happy, you know, that joy comes from within, I think it shows with30:29all your different areas of interest, you don't rely externally on someone else to make you feel complete or whole.30:35And so you're like, This is me, I'm grounded, I am whole. And I see you as a independently minded whole person with your30:42own set of desires and needs. And if you would like to choose to spend this time with this other person, that doesn't30:49impact my opinion of myself, or my wholeness, that, if that's additive for you, then it's additive for me, and for a unit.30:56That's what I hear when I yeah, it's just yeah, because otherwise, you're, you're,31:02you're holding a person back from their own happiness, right. And so you have to sort of like, give them license to be happy,31:09you know, whether, you know, it's, it's, but But I expect you to do the same for me, allow me to be happy and whatever that31:17might be. So that's, that's the key to, you know, just being happy, whatever makes him happy. If he if my you know, husband,31:24partner, whatever it is, needs to see somebody else or go whatever it is, but my thing is, like, it's just the consequences31:33look just like you and just saw it growing up, and I feel that I I've just ingrained in you, you know, you have to think about31:42consequences. If you're about to do something, if you're, you know, flirting with with certain actions, or whatever it is, you31:49think about what the outcome might be. And if you can live with the outcome, then I say go ahead, go ahead. But if you31:56whatever those consequences are that are happy, or they they're hurtful to whether it's yourself or somebody else, then you know32:03the answer don't just don't that is that is it? Yeah. So I love that distinction of again, you're and I would I love32:10that user and never been prescriptive. You never said, you know, what I do will also work for you. So do what I do.32:18In order you said, you know, whatever they do, like, do what they do, it works for you. But it is this, I think this question for you to consider for yourself, like does this work32:26for you try it on, if it doesn't know, think through holistically the consequences. I really like. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, yeah.32:36Well, thank you for sharing that. Oh, Mommy, I just want to32:43thank you for everything. I mean, I really, I told you this, I think maybe like a month ago or something that I truly know32:53that I wouldn't be here without you. I really see you as like my OG thought partner and my best friend forever and ever. From33:01day one. I've always felt free to tell you everything. And I love what I love about myself is also what I love about you. So I33:09love myself, just how I love you. Because like I see myself so much in you. And just thank you for just being like the most33:18amazing example and given me the freedom to like become my own person. And I know like all of this is because of you. So33:28incredible. You were you were really like put here to you know, guide me and33:34I don't know about that. Because it's I don't know, it's a true partnership. I think we were paired together. It's definitely33:40not not just one side and not because, you know, I'm I was going to be the person to guide you throughout. Well, I think33:46it's like a win win. Definitely. Because you've taught me so much as well. You know, you have in corrected me and you have shown33:56me a different perspective on things. And so I think that34:02yeah, I think it's, it's, it's just very, very complimentary.34:07What we have together, Oh, I love that I put it's like a partnership. So you know that34:13I mean, I want kids one day. So I'm curious, we talked a lot about how you are as a parent, I'm curious, how do you think34:20I'm going to be as a mom? Well, I know you've been praising me a lot about my34:26motherhood and how I am how I parent and so on. But I really, really feel that you're going to be 1000 times better than I am34:35meaning that those kids are going to just, you know, they34:40are going to come blazing into the world and you're going to you're, you're you're gonna you talk about the the freedom I34:46gave you and I mean, I see these children, they're going to have34:53so much more. You're going to have every answer to every question. Um, you're going to, you know, guide them and show35:05them, you know, life experiences. And I know they're going to be so well, so, you know, so good and everything35:10they do. And but that's because of, you know, of you, I think you're going to, you're going to just allow them to be, you're35:17going to do it even better than I have, you know, you know, with you, you're there. So I think that just a few examples as as,35:27as a child, my goodness, you were, you must have been, well just think at two, two and a half years old when you're Tying35:35shoelaces. And I'm with you at because you love to teach right? You like to teach you like to show people how to do things,35:42you know, a better you, you know better way, you may find out how to cut corners, but doing an equality way and sort of way.35:49But you know, what, two and a half years old when you're Tying shoelaces, and we're at a fourth of July party, and this kid35:56who's nine years old running around with his shoelaces untied, and you just stop him at two and a half. You stopped him36:03in his tracks, and you bent down and you tied his shoelaces together. And his parents were looking like, How old is she,36:11you know, and you're showing this kid how to tie his own shoelaces and was homework time and we had teacher, your cousin,36:17you know, overnight, and it was homework time and you're at the kitchen counter doing homework, and you're diligently like36:23always doing your homework. Right. And, and TJ, of course, he wants to go play, he doesn't want to do homework. And, and36:31you know, and I'm TJ, you've got to go do homework. And he's like, I don't have to do homework, I don't have to do homework, I want to be Superman. I don't want to go to school, I36:40want to be Superman. And you just got off the counter very quietly, very calmly, and you you went to him you say TJ36:48Superman has to know about geography. And Superman has to know math because he needs to know how many times to go round36:55the world to get to his the people he's going to rescue you need to you need Superman has to has to go to school, he knows37:02that he needs to know these things. And so I was done. I didn't know what to say. Because you shamed me. Right. You took37:08the highway, you showed him how and why he needed to do his homework, because we need a smart Superman. Right? And so37:19and so being you know, just those are just a couple of examples. And and the time when you when you got that B plus you37:25talked about earlier, the reason you got it because I I went to the teacher, I went to the teacher, I mean, like I did they37:33they were tired of seeing me I was in there, I would say look, it's not like I you know, I'm a board, house mom with nothing to37:40do I pay attention to my what my my child's telling me every day after school because I question every single thing every, every37:49single day I question. So I want to make sure that she's paired nicely, you know, with with the right teacher, she's in the37:56right class that stimulating to her. And so and then when I went in, and I found out the reason you got that v plus was because38:05you would just get up. And it's not because you were doing poor work, it's because you were getting up and in the teachers38:12mind you were being disruptive, you would get up and go help the other students how to do their work. Yeah, and you would just,38:19and so you and that's what you do, you would just help the other students. Right? And, and so you've always been that kind38:28of person who would edify others Little did I know, from being wanting to be a doctor, maybe an attorney, and then maybe not so38:37much as a doctor, but as scientists, when you you got accepted into that Stanford scholarship program for that38:45summer to learn about genetics, you know, at the genome center, right. And so and so from, and the reason you said you change38:54you said, from wanting to be a doctor, and wanting to be a scientist, because you can do more for humanity, right for39:02humanity as a whole, not just the patient that would come in to see you, you know, everyday but yeah, humanity as a whole.39:09And I thought that was just very in depth of you. You know that you came to that at just 12 years old? You know, actually,39:17yeah, about 1314 years old, you came to that realization. So I think you're going to be a terrific mother. I can't wait to39:23see it. And, and so yeah, I just can't wait to see it. Whether39:28it's going to be whether it's boy, girl are both, you're going to be a terrific mother, or we'll let them determine their own gender. You know, I'm39:36saying that's true, but no, that's true. Thank you, Mommy.39:44Oh, well, thank you. I just want to thank you for being on. This was so special to have you on the show to share you with the39:52world because I've been able to experience you Giselle, who's right off camera right there. My little sister little son So40:00she's a grown ass woman, but you know, younger sister having her here, but we've been able to experience you, you know, for40:07the last decades, and this was so special to bring you on. And it's half the world also experienced you, and have a40:13glimpse into how amazing you are. So thank you for being on the show. And for Yeah, I just love you. I love you since 3000.40:21And I love you to40:27listen, sometimes life be life in and we do not know what's coming down that road next. Well, that's what happened to me40:35in 2016 when I was unexpectedly laid off from my job. And I was six figures in student loan debt, I had no savings, and I40:42didn't know what was going to happen next. Now, luckily, I had this little voice inside of me at that time that I couldn't40:50ignore, and it was telling me to take the leap. It was saying, use this as your opportunity to build your business. Use this as40:58your opportunity to create your dream life. And so I believe that life happens for us, not to us. And that nudge in my spirit,41:06I should listen to it. Luckily, I did. Fast forward to today, I have a business that's made over $20 million. And I've helped41:14over 10,000 people create their online businesses and their dream lives. So do you want to learn how to turn your story41:21into an online product and launch in 30 days, head on over to coursefromscratch.com/since3000.41:27I want you to join us on this journey so you can listen to that little voice inside of you too. So go now Do yourself a41:35favor of coursefromscratch.com/since3000.EnglishAllFrom Danielle LeslieConversationRelatedListenableLiveRecently uploadedWatched
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