Meet Bahja Johnson, Head of Equality and Belonging at Gap Inc., and she joins Amber Cabral to explore some incredibly important topics, like colorism, privilege, and the unique challenges that the world of retail and fashion faces when it comes to making a positive impact. Bahja highlights the pivotal role that equity plays in the fashion industry and the critical importance of making equitable decisions, especially when it comes to areas like product design and hiring practices.
They also discuss the amount of courage it takes for leaders to drive change and the necessity of translating diversity, equity, and inclusion goals into tangible, financial terms. After all, real transformation in the retail industry requires strategic thinking, financial incentives, and an unwavering commitment to nurturing diverse and inclusive spaces. Trust, impact, and time all come into play when we're working towards lasting change. Bahja believes in using her privilege to make a real difference and she's absolutely unapologetic about it. Her journey is filled with incredible sponsors who recognize her potential and give her the support and opportunities she needs to flourish. She emphasizes the incredible significance of sponsorship in one's career journey and encourages us all
to seek out sponsors who truly believe in us, even if they challenge us along the way.
Ultimately, this episode is a treasure trove of wisdom, touching on leadership, diversity, and the incredible power of leveraging privilege to drive positive change. So, get ready for a conversation that's not just insightful but also deeply inspirational. You won't want to miss a moment of it!
KEY POINTS:
-As a leader, fear of failure is a key barrier to diversity and inclusion
-Don't expect instant results, invest in your own time, study customer feedback, and adapt strategies as needed
-Recognize and use your privilege to ensure diversity and equity in your organization
-Seek sponsors who believe in you and can create opportunities
-When you find a sponsor, be clear and direct about your needs and what you want to achieve
-Remember that you always have something to share
QUOTABLES:
"We had a responsibility as an industry to be able to think about all people." -Bahja Johnson
"It takes time to build trust. It takes time to build trust in a relationship. It takes hard to build trust with a partnership." -Bahja Johnson
"Everything is better with equity in mind." -Bahja Johnson
"I need you to be able to use your privilege and your power and your impact and your title to uphold everything that we've taught you." -Bahja Johnson
"If I didn't do something with all of this privilege, it'd be a slap in the face to every single person before me who didn't have as much." -Bahja Johnson
"I feel like we have to have the expectation that having a mindset of equality and belonging takes time. " - Amber Cabral
GUEST INFORMATION:
Bahja Johnson
IG | @bahjaleila
LinkedIn | bahjajohnson
Facebook | bahja.johnson
Twitter | @bahjaleila
Amber Cabral
IG | @bamcabral
LinkedIn | @ambercabral
Facebook | @amber.cabral
Twitter | @BamCabral
Grab a copy of Amber’s books at Amazon!
Allies and Advocates: Creating an Inclusive and Equitable Culture
Say More About That: ...And Other Ways to Speak Up, Push Back, and Advocate for Yourself and Others
Guilty Privilege is produced by EPYC Media Network
WOW! I am always enthralled by the conversations had and topics discussed on this podcast. As someone who rarely feels motivated or inspired, I am so grateful to have found this podcast. I have shared this podcast with so many people in my life as each episode offers a brilliant mind’s insight. This past episode I had to pull over and just allow myself to feel the the feeling of motivation and then gratitude. This show doesn’t present itself as a self help podcast, nor does it attempt to—for lack of a better word— preach to it’s audience. However, every episode I find myself unapologetically happy with myself. I find myself sharing this podcast hoping others feel this feeling. Having access to this podcast is one privilege I absolutely refuse to feel guilty for—and boy what a privilege it is!
I took away so much from this episode. The biggest is recognizing our true enemy. Also, equity is about choices. We have them and we can choose how to use our privilege.
Great listen/watch. People really underrate how important emotional intelligence is in business. Hopefully more people will listen and utilize some of the information shared.
Just finished the first episode (whispers: via YouTube) and I was NOT ready for the conversation to end. So I came on over to the apple podcast streets to subscribe and listen again on my commute to work. While this is not the work I’m exclusively dedicated to, I want to increase awareness around equity so I can be more intentional in my practice personally and professionally. This conversation is an absolute resource that I have the PRIVILEGE (time) to tap into and I look forward to digging into new episodes every week.
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